Hannah Thomas

I believe they feel the pat answer should be enough. They are in the position of not having to answer to ‘women’, etc. I doubt it would make it any different if was a man either to be honest. When I saw how the ‘true women’s conference’ twisted things to fit the definition? They have to much invested in admitting anything. To me? That’s plain sinful, but I would have more respect for them if they admitted things personally.

There are evil women and men within the church, and for some reason they truly have a hard time facing them down directly. Its sad. They end up helping no one.

This has nothing to do with roles. It has to do with sin. When you divert to roles, and not deal with the sin? You don’t have much of a point.

Well – Mr. Piper’s Friend decided not to comment to anyone anymore due to his loyality, and our ignorance of roles I guess. I guess roles have something to do with enduring abuse? Having children witness and endure abuse?

I’m sorry but if they were so right – why not defend your position! I was amazed at the comment he left before leaving:

I didn’t intend for my comments to start a fire. I completely disagree (on a personal and biblical level) with many things that are being stated here. I have and will continue to defend John Piper. He has proved himself to me and many thousands of other believers as a faithful expositor of the Word of God.

It seems the issues you all have are not so much with Piper but rather with what the Word of God states about the difference between men and women’s roles (not significance or worth; just roles).

Well it seems I have upset some of at his ministry over the post I wrote on your post. I can’t help that. I also stand by what I said.

Patricia Evans speaks about the “Power over” model. Its win or lose and no in between. You can’t be equal because it would make you subservient. He fits the bill!

These men seem so entitled (movements like this I mean – not all men) to their leadership in the home they clearly can’t see straight! It seems they can’t read scripture either. Can you imagine some woman giving the little speech he mentioned to an abuser? Talk about make things worse.

I mean Let him smack you and call us in the morning! LOL Why not right that minute? You don’t wish your dinner interrupted?

The hair stood up in the back of my next as I listened. Ick!