Headless Unicorn Guy

These guys all get off with their self-appointed status – as if they enjoy some sort of “apostolic succession.” Who “ordained” these guys? Just some other self-appointed “office-holders.”

Kicker is, these guys come out of churches that consider the historical Liturgical churches (who DO recognize Apostolic Succession) as “apostate” at best and “Satanic Counterfit” at worse.

Plus the fact that Piper is such a nice guy, I really don’t think he gets the abusive mindset, at all. He gets being angry and not understanding human beings of the female gender. He gets that men are sometimes harsh and that some/many of those men can be won over by a soft answer from a female. But he doesn’t get that there are those who will be encouraged to abuse more when given a soft answer. — Mara

After my above rant, Mara, I think you’ve hit it right in the 10 ring. Piper is clueless. As clueless as someone long-married is clueless about being single. He has no idea of the hurt inside that can build up and explode into rage. That “the soft answer” doesn’t turn away, only whips up as the soft answer gets misinterpreted by the hurting hindbrain as smug belittling. Piper’s never experienced that kind of open wound inside, the one that never heals, only tears back open. I HAVE. That’s why I understand it so well.

I don’t know about you, but as a guy who’s head’s never been wrapped all that tight the Sweet Submissive Widdle Wifey like Piper goes for both attracts and repels me.

(I’m going through a depresso attack right now, so what’s going to come out on this is raw emotion. Rage.)

Attracts because she’s “safe”. All my life, I’ve been hurt by women, an unbroken string of rejections. And a Sweet Widdle Wifey sure as hell won’t leave me like SHE did. Or hurt me like all the others. Because she won’t have the ability to. Or any choice or say in the matter. She’s SAFE.

Repels because there is no way I could have any respect for a doormat/piece of livestock like that. I’d want to throw my weight around even harder the more she acted the Sweet Widdle Wifey — “What is Thy will, My Lord Husband? How may I better Submit?” Because that’s not a wife, that’s an IT. And how can anyone have any respect for an IT?

And my baggage of unbroken rejections by other women (including the only one I ever thought of marrying — it still HURTS) would just make things worse. After getting shit on by women all my life, I’d get pulled in the direction of wanting payback for what all the others did to me. With interest. And without respect for her as a person to pull me in the back in the other direction until time together rebuilt my ability to Trust — only that roll-over-and-die submission — there’d be nothing to keep me from wiping my ass with her to get that payback.

Because that’s what happens when male/female interaction is reduced to pure Power Struggle, and seasoned with Hurt and Pain. Like both the Femmies and the Dominoinists have done, just in opposite directions. It becomes the Zero-Sum Game: The only way to gain anything for myself is to take it away from the Other. Top OR Bottom, Me OR Her, Us OR Them.

Does Submission (TM) include FGM, honor killings, and burqa?

If not, why is Piper watering down his God-Saith Male Supremacy, when he could be drinking it straight on the rocks alongside the Taliban?