J Gillian Finley

Hi Cheryl; Thank you for making this issue more understandable…as understandable as Calvinism can be. You’re the first person I’ve talked to, on this issue, who DIDN’T raise my blood pressure. 😀

Nearly forgot to ask…. Could Calvinism be described at least as Aberrant Christianity?

I found a few posts on youtube (I use the version WITHOUT comments~ feather …something) anyway, one of the postings was Dave Hunt, (What Love is This) and another is from a pastor …. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch6niCdIv_Q (Ralph ‘Yankee’ Arnold) Enjoy!

Another EXCELLENT post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aTrF7MCoY4 I nearly broke my hand, pounding it on my desk, shouting HALLELUJAH! EXCELLENT sermon on this issue!

Yaay! Thank goodness. I’m working with Bible knowledge as well as simple logic. Good question! Hmmm… would it be fair to say that the god of Calvinism is NOT the God of the Bible because; 1) The god of Calvinism is NOT omniscient (The God of the Bible knows the end from the beginning. ) 2) The god of Calvinism is NOT Just or Righteous. (The God of the Bible IS. He is also without partiality.) See, he had to institute sin in order to know that Adam and Eve would fall. It’s weird. On one hand, He said, “Do NOT eat of the tree that is in the middle of the garden….” On the other hand, he Made them do what he told them NOT to do, in order that he would know What they would do. (OUCH! I just gave my brain whiplash!) I liken this to a judge, who sits in judgement of a man he set up. Fair? I think NOT. The god of calvinism provokes man to sin and then condemns humanity for the fall that he instigated??? This CAN’T be the God of the Bible, who desires that ALL men (humanity) be saved. (1 Tim 2:4) God issues the invite and we choose whether or not to accept the invite. You can invite me to a party at your home for thus and so day and I have the choice to RSVP yes or no. I don’t just show up at your house and insist on being fed and entertained. But that’s what Calvinists believe happens when we accept the offer. Odd. Interestingly, I know a couple of ex-JWs who ended up as Calvinists. From the frying pan into the fire.

Thanks, Cheryl! I have Dave Hunt’s What Love Is THIS? The big issue with Calvinists is the issue of CHOICE. They seem to confuse a person’s right to accept or deny the INVITATION GOD gave with the idea that the choice puts the chooser in charge. They also don’t seem to understand that GOD KNOWS the heart. He is also omniscient. He can know something without having to instigate it. The god of Calvinism is NOT the God of the Bible! He seems to be quite cavalier about condemning millions to hell. They aren’t the ‘elect’. I’ve asked Calvinists how they feel about some “non-elect’ best friend or family member being predestined to eternal judgement and got no answer. I have to wonder if they understand the LOVE part of John 3:16.