James A Ferrari

Kristen,

I was going off of memory with the Reference to Luke.. I meant 2nd Luke. (ACTS) when Paul was at Mars Hill…

There is a Bride, There is a New City, There are Nations and there are Kingdoms and Priests on the New Earth. There are Rewards. So yes, the New City is the Bride. The Bride will be a Mature Bride.

Many References to Eve being deceived and Adam Not being deceived..

I will give you a few.. The Point is we were Created and we will see His love.. but yes, we will all submit to the will of the King…

Heading to Work, but again. This has been a good discussion.. Sorry I messed up on the LUKE/ACTS from Memory Scripture…

I am glad you responded to such an old post.. Wish we were neighbors, you have such an unshakable and interesting point of view..
Would you agree that the bride of Christ (the New City Revelation 21:2) will submit to her Husband, Our Lord, Our Creator?

Anyways, I love your strong unshakable beliefs..

As a free gift, I will give you something to add to your side of the argument.

I do not agree with this interpretation, but it will work well for your side of the street…

1st Cor 14:35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

1st Cor 14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

You will note: In this passage Paul was addressing some of the many issues that had cropped up in the church. He was addressing their idea of women keeping silent.

So, what did he say about this? 1st Cor 14:36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
He could have been arguing that 1st Cor 14:35 was their (the church’s) wrong way of thinking..

The fact is Christ died for our sins.

Christ is the “only” way to salvation.

Oprah is wrong..

The issue is not about keeping silent in church.
The issue is our Salvation and the Kingdom to come.

I truly believe we would make great neighbors..

Please use the King James Version and read the following verses.
Luke 17:11-12
Gen 2: 16-17 the law of the garden.
Gen 2:18-20…

Then Gen 2:21-23
The Bride will be taken from the Body of Christ..
Just like a rib (Close to Adams Heart) was taken from Adam
(Oh my, did I open a can of worms here)..

Eve Was in the Garden.
The Serpent was talking to Eve.
The Serpent started with a question to raise doubt about the Word and also Gods motive for not allowing them to eat of the tree.
Gen 3:1-4
Eve was deceived..
The Serpent was not there when she and Adam were together. Gen 3:6
She did eat and then she did offer the fruit to Adam and their eyes were opened.
The Serpent talked only to Eve.

So, is it a stretch to say women are supposed to keep silent?
Women are a help meet.
The woman was deceived.
Adam was not.. He fell.
He knowingly and willingly broke the law.
Genesis 3:6 She saw the tree was good: She saw it as a tree to be desired: she did eat and gave unto her husband..

In her innocence she listened to her heart and her desire to be wise.
Adam knew he was doing wrong.. I could take this further, but if we can not get past this first point, then there is no point going beyond.

I am sorry I only read part one and only a few of the responses to your series. When I get off work tomorrow I will read a little deeper.

You were kind enough to respond. May God be with you..
I was just passing by and saw the thread.. So,till tomorrow I am waving my hand..

The born again church will learn by reading the Word.
By letting the word teach and instruct.
2nd Timothy 3:16

As the bride, we need not to add to the Word.
Letting the Word teach.
Adam was given the garden and the rules of the garden, then he was given a help meet. Adam named all of the animals and was given dominion over the earth. Eve added to the Word “Neither shall we touch it.”
Satan then said, surely you won’t die….
He knew she could touch it and not die.
She added to the rules…
Satan lead her to question God.

Just passing through.
Only read part one.

1st Timothy 2:11-12 Is not written just about women.

The Church is the Bride.
Is the Bride to teach Jesus?
For Eve was deceived.
Adam was not deceived.
Adam sinned willingly.
Adam was the head, created first and given the law.
Eve added to the Word. (Neither shall we touch it).
She was deceived.
Adam sinned willingly. knowingly.
Born again, let women be silent in learning.
Let the church be silent in learning.
Let the Word teach…