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2011-07-20T06:48:30-07:00 on Repost Authority Vs Submission A Biblical View Of Ephesians 522
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I’ll take a stab at answering your question simply. I’m sure others can flesh it out more eloquently. There are two issues swimming in this debate:

  1. Comps believe Jesus, though “equal” with God, is eternally subordinate to God the Father. Jesus the Son’s role is to do the Father’s will. Egals believe Jesus as the Christ, or the Incarnate Son, was subordinate to the Father’s will while on earth as man; but is now given all authority in heaven and on earth. And Jesus the Word in eternity past was not “in submission” to the Father, but One with Him in will and authority.

When Comps argue Jesus was the Christ for all eternity (past and future), it is part of their belief that Jesus was a subordinate member of the Trinity…hence wives can be a subordinate member of the marriage unity without affecting her equality, just like Jesus did.

  1. The other issue being addressed is whether the term Christ is synonymous with God. Comps (at least NN) say yes, it is. Because they believe that, they can then apply all the God passages to the husband. Why? Because the husband is to act like Christ…God.

Egals take issue with this because it implies men must behave not just as Christ, Jesus the sacrificial man, but like transcendent God to their wives. And flipped, wives must respond to their husbands if He is playing the “God” role. Egals believe this is taking the metaphor WAY too far.

Hope that helps!

2011-06-14T13:43:23-07:00 on Repost Authority Vs Submission A Biblical View Of Ephesians 522
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Thanks for the re-post! I’ve been wondering what you wrote that generated so much conversation! 🙂