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2009-09-07T14:35:32-07:00 on Anne Graham Lotz And 800 Pastors Shame
#4762

Cheryl,
My comparison of homosexual marriage and the women in leadership, etc. issue wasn’t about sin, it was about disregarding what the Word says in order to do as you wish or, perhaps, as you believe you are called to do.
You use the “weak conscience” term (which is used in scripture to address those who don’t eat meat) in a way I’ve never seen before.
You are correct: the Bible never specifically says woman cannot “preach.” So, I guess, if woman can preach and, at the same time, not teach or usurp the authority of men, who’s to say it’s not o.k.?

2009-09-07T13:32:00-07:00 on Anne Graham Lotz And 800 Pastors Shame
#4759

Lin,
Homosexual marriage & women teaching/in leadership and authority over men ARE related (although, perhaps not in severity) in the fact that they are both clear examples of people’s unwillingness to follow the clearly stated directives given in God’s Word. And always remember the great example of a wife submitting to her husband’s authority. By doing so she’s actually submitting to the Lord who commands that she do so. Perhaps you need to get over the fact that you were created a woman (and not a man) and begin to focus of the unique and wonderful plan that God has for your life – one that is in alignment with His Word. (of course you should, as I should proclaim the Word, but in the order and fashion prescribed within the Word) It’s really very simple when you think about it. And . . as for “Should I compare your beliefs about women to that of David Koresh? Papa Pilgrim? Would that be fair?” Well, you could if there were any comparison to make.

2009-09-07T12:32:16-07:00 on Anne Graham Lotz And 800 Pastors Shame
#4757

Cheryl,
I don’t believe it’s an issue of “weak conscience” on the part of men (although it sounds to have been an odd/cruel reaction) but about one’s perceived calling lining up with God’s Word.
Currently, the homosexual marriage issue rages, and the scriptures are clear with regard to God’s opinion of such unions; yet many claim to “know” it to be God’s will to allow these unions (along with torturing the Word/or completely disregarding the Word in an effort to get it to say what they wish to be true). Their desires have usurped the clear direction of God’s Word, and I must admit; I don’t know enough about the ministerial work of Mrs. Lotz to say for sure that she is guilty of this.
Had I been present when she spoke, I would never have acted as these men acted. Now, depending on what she said, I may have quietly left if I felt it was appropriate to be there, but judging from what I’ve heard Mrs. Lotz say at other times; I can’t image that I would feel that to be necessary.
As for judgement: we are called to correct each other as believers.

2009-09-06T23:11:32-07:00 on Anne Graham Lotz And 800 Pastors Shame
#4755

I agree that the act of turning one’s chair around would be rude, but why would a group of Christian men want to be preached to by a woman? If she were merely sharing her testimony or other stories about her life – fine, but I certainly wouldn’t consider it within God’s order for men to be preached to by a woman.

One’s perceived calling must line up with scripture in order to it to be legitimate; wouldn’t you agree?