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Weaknesses of View 4: teknogonia as synecdoche is unsupported and singleness tension

ALL The Debates Over 1 Tim 2_11-15: Women in Ministry part 12 (it took me a year to make this) 10:26:10 – 10:29:14

Mike identifies the main problems with Moo's proper female roles interpretation.

Mike identifies weaknesses: (1) Stanley Porter notes that in all four known extra-biblical uses of teknogonia where meaning can be determined, it refers to the specific act of bearing children, never to a broader role — there is no precedent for the synecdoche reading; (2) Moo claims Paul uses teknogonia this way in 1 Tim 5:14, but Mike disagrees — in 5:14 it appears in a chronological sequence (marry, bear children, manage household) referring to literal childbirth; (3) Other Greek words exist for child-raising (teknotrophos) that Paul could have used if he meant the broader role (1 Tim 5:10 uses a different word for 'brought up children'); (4) It connects genuine salvation too strongly to marriage and having kids, creating tension with 1 Cor 7 where Paul praises singleness as a gift that fully honors God; (5) It doesn't connect well to the Genesis references in vv.13-14, feeling disconnected from the Adam/Eve narrative Paul just referenced.

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Adam And His Ms Organ

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@dalepartridge Also…Paul was childless and advocated for singleness. Populating

@dalepartridge Also…Paul was childless and advocated for singleness. Populating the planet isn’t the calling of the church; discipling the nations is.

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@Dankrightanon @LordFerguson09 No, a woman cannot be a husband. The idiom is in the male form as a generic characteristic that can apply to anyone regardless of gender. Else it requires one to be married and have 2 or more children and Paul was neith...

@Dankrightanon @LordFerguson09 No, a woman cannot be a husband. The idiom is in the male form as a generic characteristic that can apply to anyone regardless of gender. Else it requires one to be marr

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The Debates Over 1 Timothy 2

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the debates over 1 Timothy 2:11-15

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Why Mike Winger is Wrong About “Authenteō” in 1 Timothy 2:12 – and Why It Matters

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 12 on the meaning of authenteō in 1 Timothy 2:12

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What Winger Presently Gets Wrong: Women Apostles

Response to Mike Winger's Women in Ministry Part 5 on whether women were apostles in the New Testament

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