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Mike rejects the egalitarian view (e.g., Craig Keener) that subordination only appears in Genesis 3 as part of the curse; he sees a 'godly, tensionless leadership' for Adam in Genesis 2 as part of God's good creation.

Was Women's Submission Just a Curse to Be Overturned? Women in Ministry part 2 01:30:30 – 01:32:01

Mike's key conclusion on Genesis 2

Mike directly rejects Craig Keener's position (from 'Paul, Women, and Wives') that 'the wife's subordination is presented only as a result of the fall.' Mike argues there is a godly, tensionless leadership that Adam has with Eve in Genesis 2 as part of God's good creation, based on: made first, names Eve, she's made for him, he's given commands/tasks. This is 'whether I like it or not, what the passage seems to be saying.'

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