Mike examines 2 John 1:11 in context, explaining it refers to hosting traveling teachers and not to general social contact with heretics, then defends William Lane Craig's nuanced view on Catholics — acknowledging a false Catholic gospel while allowing that some Catholics may be genuinely saved.

Mike explains 2 John 11 was addressing the practice of providing food and lodging to traveling teachers, thereby enabling their ministry, not a prohibition on talking with unbelievers at the door. He clarifies that Craig does not affirm Catholic doctrine as true; rather Craig allows that some Catholics may hold a grace-centered understanding even within the Catholic framework. Mike personally disagrees with this caveat and calls it 'playing both sides of the fence.' In his experience, virtually every Catholic he has interviewed holds a works-based gospel. He says he does not think separation from Craig over this issue is warranted.