The two vessel passages should not be conflated — different contexts, different applications
Mike's conclusion: 2 Tim 2:20-21 and Romans 9 use the same metaphor for different purposes and cannot be merged to make a doctrinal argument about total depravity.
In Romans 9, all Christians are vessels of mercy (honorable); in 2 Tim 2, Christians can be either honorable or dishonorable depending on their conduct. Merging them creates a category error. Mike states he does believe total depravity is an incorrect doctrine and has addressed it elsewhere, but this particular pairing is not the right argument to use against it: Romans 9 addresses salvation/election; 2 Tim 2:20-21 addresses sanctification of believers.
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