Mike's rebuttal to Payne: role differences are about God's calling/assignment, not nature or equality in Christ. Payne's logic would make eldership part of what it means to be Christian.

Mike argues it is about calling, not nature — God assigns roles without grounding them in nature or salvation status. Payne's argument seems to make elders 'more Christian' than others, since eldership becomes part of what equality in Christ requires. Mike finds this bizarre as a pastor — his Christianity is not defined by being a pastor. Payne makes being eligible for eldership part of Christian equality, which Mike rejects.