Winger affirms husband-wife roles are equal in value but different in role, calling this 'irrefutably taught' in the NT. He rejects the word 'rule' as misleading in modern English but affirms husbands have a higher position of authority.

Key claims: (1) Equal in value, different in role is 'thoroughly taught, irrefutably taught' in the NT. (2) The word 'rule' is misleading in modern English — it connotes domineering/abuse. (3) He says he does NOT think submission was merely a result of the curse of the fall — he plans to address this more in his Women in Ministry series. (4) Points listeners to his 1 Peter teaching on husbands and wives for practical application. (5) Frames the egal position as needing to be addressed in his upcoming WIM study.