Winger says a wife co-teaching an adult Sunday school Bible study IS an elder-type role and would be wrong under his complementarian view. However, co-teaching a topical class (like parenting) is NOT eldership and he'd be fine with it. He warns against creating Pharisaic rules but draws the line at verse-by-verse Bible teaching.

Key claims: (1) Paul's rule is not just about the TITLE of elder — it's about the FUNCTION: 'don't allow a woman to teach or have authority over a man.' (2) Teaching a verse-by-verse study of Ephesians, Galatians, Hebrews = 'that's eldery.' (3) A parenting class for six weeks = NOT uniquely eldership, and he sees no problem with wife co-teaching that. (4) Sunday school groups 'can become like little churches inside the larger church' — so context matters. (5) He warns against Pharisaic boundary-drawing: 'we get to be like the Pharisees when they made all those rules about the Sabbath.' (6) Facilitating (asking questions, occasionally explaining) vs. teaching is a gray area he won't 'sweat.' (7) Extensive rant against egalitarian scholarship: 'their arguments on scripture are so so bad,' 'bad Bible studies, bad hermeneutics, twisting the text of Greek and Hebrew, misrepresenting history.' (8) Claims he can make a better case for open theism or annihilationism than for egalitarianism. (9) Reiterates patriarchal side also gets things wrong: women aren't inherently more easily deceived, shouldn't be barred from theological education. (10) 'The complementarian and patriarchal side are fundamentally right.