Winger says Eph 5:22 and Col 3:18 apply regardless of whether the husband is a Christian — the qualifier is 'your husband,' not 'your Christian husband.' Submission is not 100% in every possible thing, and exceptions exist for abuse, but the exception shouldn't be used to invalidate the rule.

Key arguments: (1) Short answer: 'you just do what it says' — submit to your husband as fitting in the Lord. (2) The qualifier is that he's your HUSBAND, not that he's a Christian. (3) For husbands, 'love your wives and don't be harsh' also applies regardless of wife's faith. (4) Submission is NOT '100% submission in every single possible thing' — 'they don't become your god.' (5) Strongly warns against using exceptions to invalidate the rule: 'What I often hear people do is they focus on the situations that are exceptions to the rule of submission as a way of invalidating the rule in its entirety.' (6) Wants to 'establish the rule' first, then talk about exceptions. (7) Points to his verse-by-verse 1 Peter teaching (separate from WIM theological debate series) for practical application. (8) Also references a passage 'specifically written for that woman' (likely 1 Peter 3:1-6 on winning husbands without a word).