Lin

“Cheryl has told me before that Eve was not “a threat”. What a wrong understanding of sin. I would challenge Cheryl to find any scripture which talks about sin in this way. Sin is rebellion against God. Paul makes it clear in Romans that no one seeks God (Rom 3:11), no one does good, not even one (Rom 3:12). Sin makes us dead (Eph 2). So the question must be asked, is Eve included in this. She must be, since she was a sinner and since none of these exclude Eve as having a different sin nature.”

Mark, are we reading the same Bible? I do not know what you mean by ‘threat’ but after reading your comments here, you simply cannot see the reality of the Word because of your male supremacy filter. If you could ‘banish’ that filter, it would really become more clear. :o)

The Word is very clear. Eve was deceived. Adam sinned on purpose. What did Eve do after she was deceived? SHE ADMITTED IT!. What did Adam do? Blamed Eve and God.

Can you not see the parallels to this truth and what is taught in 1 Timothy 1-2?

Yes, Eve was ashamed not rebellious! She believed the serpent. But look again after the fall…what did Eve do? She was hoping that she purchased a man from God…the promise of the One who would crush the serpent.

(BTW: We have many who do the same thing the serpent did in the Garden. They say, surely God did not say…and they use this same trick to dumb down sin. I say this because I think I understand what you are worried about here)

But, I am simply stunned at the way you are adding to Gen 2-3 what is not in the Word. The Word is clear. Eve was deceived. Adam sinned willfully and dealt treacherously with God. Eve admitted she was deceived. Adam blamed God and Eve. Even the responses to sin was totally different for them both!

On another note: How do you get it out of Genesis 3, that Eve wants to dominate Adam? When the word clearly says, the husband would seek to dominate her because she ‘turned’ toward him instead of God. She becomes a doormat looking to her husband for her needs instead of trusting God for her needs. Patriarchy is born of sin. YET, God works through sinful man all through the OT and regulates his sinfulness later through the law.