Cheryl Schatz

gengwall,

1. I do not believe Eve had a sin nature. That doesn’t mean I believe she was incapable of sinning.

Wonderful to know that we agree that Eve did not have a sin nature. I also do not believe that she was “incapable” of sinning. She was capable and could make the choice just like she could when she was created. However because she had no sin nature, there had to be a reason why she would sin. She sinned in the beginning because she was deceived. If she sinned in regard to Adam, who was deceiving her to sin this time?

I would like to continue exploring whether or not “desire” was sinful, but if you require a second witness to that sin before you would even consider it was “more than neutral”, we are at a dead end.

How then would we know that it was a sin? What evidence would you bring? I honestly can’t see how someone can charge her with sin with the words that are written. How do you justify someone doing this?

That is why I am attempting to compare it to Adam’s sin of “rule” which I am not yet convinced there is a second (or third) witness to.

Was my Biblical evidence for Adam’s sin nature of no value? Do you believe that there is as much evidence for Eve’s sinning against her husband as there is for Adam’s sin nature? Is so, how do you stack the two together to come out with an equal case?

2. I said: “As suspicious as I am of “desire” or “turning” as a virtue, I find the thought of it being relatively inconsequential blather on God’s part to be unfathomable.” Now, what part of “on God’s part” makes you think “relatively inconsequential blather” is directed at you. LOL.

Tee hee. I can’t answer this one since I don’t think that God has said anything that is “inconsequential” or anything that would be “blubbering” “drooling” or the like.

I just think that God meant what He said and said what He meant. It was judgment when He said it was a curse and prophecy when he predicted. But if prophecy is actually a judgment on Eve, then perhaps that could be considered a mistake a.k.a. “inconsequential blathering” since God is making us guess what He meant?