gengwall

Hi pinklight.

My inquiry is not looking for a second witness to Adam’s sin nature, but looking for a second witness to his specific sin of “rule”. At one point waaaaaaay back when, Cheryl had said that for Eve’s “desire” to be sinful, we would need a second witness in scripture. I countered that then we would also need a second witness to Adam’s “rule”. Cheryl’s response is basically two fold.

1. That Adam’s sin nature, exemplified by the apparent inevitability of him eating from the Tree of Life, is a second witness that Adam sinned outside the garden.

2. The existence of male “rule” throughout history is evidence that Adam passed down this trait to men and somehow proves that he himself must have modelled it in his post garden experience.

Cheryl articulates this in post 227. I trust the above is a reasonable synopsis and know Cheryl will correct as needed.

I disagree on all points that this is a second witness that Adam did in fact commit the specific sin of “rule” outside the garden. Now, don’t get me wrong. I do think Adam did it. But I find no scriptural “witness” that he did other than God’s audible prophecy in Gen 3:16. I find God’s verbal utterance sufficient witness all on its own.