Cheryl Schatz

Okay, I was going to stay away from the blog for a good portion of today because I am so busy, but I think it might be good to come back on and off if there are comments that I need to answer rather than answer “a day late and a dollar short” 🙂

Mark, you said:

I agree that any abuse of authority is God-stripping. However to reject God’s ordained authority is equally horrific.

No one here is rejecting God’s “ordained” authority. We have asked over and over again to have this “ordained” authority shown to us from the creation of mankind and honestly it is getting so frustrating because the requests are being ignored as if Genesis is not important.

As with your other comments, i fail to see how ‘confident’ you state your position to be.

When we stop reading into the text, God’s Words are quite clear. If I am wrong, then all it takes is for someone who knows what truth I am missing to show me. Running around the bush and squawking about the opponents position just won’t do it. Boy I hope that doesn’t sound rude, but it is how I feel. It is f-r-u-s-t-r-a-t-i-n-g!

I’m not overly concerned with re-kindling old arguments on Gen 1-3, i just simply wanted to point out the fallicy of Susannah’s argument.

Of course you don’t want to rekindle the “old” arguments because you have been unable to show the transferring of God’s authority over the woman to the man. Honestly, I wouldn’t want to go there either if I was the one with no evidence, but I would do it just for the sake of truth. I embrace truth that is real truth even if it contradicts my position. It is part of my “fear” of God that desires God’s truth no matter how much of my world it might shake up. But you haven’t presented anything to even consider as truth. It’s too bad because I was sure willing to listen to what you had to say.

Can you agree therefore, that authority existed in the sinless creation of the garden and that authority is not in and of itself sinful?

Authority only existed with the image-of-God having given that authority. Any change to that created authority without God’s permission is in itself evil and a distortion of the original good creation. And of course God’s authority is a very good thing. But as with everything else satan loves to take what is good and distort it. We must make sure that we are not on satan’s side.

So unless and until you can prove that God gave Adam authority over Eve in the original creation, you cannot claim that authentic and godly authority includes the authority of the man over the woman.

Now it is time for you to answer a question. If authority is not given by God but taken upon oneself, is this a description of a usurping of God’s authority? Yes or no?