teknomom

Hoo boy! I don’t know how, but I managed to listen to the whole debate. Cheryl, you had much more patience and poise than I would have had.

I took some quick notes, and here are the main things I put down:

— Slick doesn’t know the difference between grammatical gender and biological gender (linguists all know this)

— He only wants to “dig” if it suits him

— he only wants to consider society in context if it suits him

— he wants a “checklist” only when it suits him

— he says “A CHRISTIAN SHOULD KNOW BETTER”. I couldn’t agree more!!

— he wants to dish out ad hominem but not take it; accused you of listening to “worldly” reasoning

— he appears ignorant of scholarship on Greek word meanings

— at about 30 minutes he starts groaning, sighing, and getting high-pitched and emotional, then can be heard laughing

— he allows women to teach men but “not as elders or pastors”, as authorities, and gives “Adam was made first” as the reason!

— he refused to back up his “federal headship” when pressed whether Eve would have been charged with sin if only Adam had sinned

— rejects Jesus taking away all sin!

— accused you of misrepresentation

— called you a CULTIST in style… BECAUSE YOU DIG INTO SCRIPTURE!!

— called you DECEIVED

— wants to pick his personal choice for what AUTHENTEIN means even while admitting no other scripture uses it

— can’t get past believing “pastors and elders have authority”

Slick would be very hard-pressed to prove that last one. You may be interested in a discussion on this topic at my message board.

For example, “pastor” is a gift, not an office. Only “elders” can be appointed, and he should know better than to claim the word for “elder” in Titus 1 is only referring to males; it is simply the plural form and does not mean only males. In Chapter 2 we see the words “male elders” and “female elders”, and no contextual reason to change the meaning there to “older men” and “older women”, especially given the overall context of the entire letter. And the word “appointment” is given in regards to the “female elders”! Age cannot be appointed!

That seems to be his big sticking point.

Overall, he acted the way I fully expected him to, and he could barely contain his frustration with frequent sighing in the background. You had him on the ropes Cheryl, whether he’ll ever admit it or not. I only hope that the women listening will at least check out the calm and uninterrupted DVD set, or the many fine articles available at your blog and other sites.

Kudos for the effort!