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NN(339)

NN: “Actually if you read (318) & (328) – it is apparently quite the opposite of what Gengwall has been saying. Though if you read what I have said previously (76) – it is what I have been saying all along…”

I’ve read multiple times (318) & (328) & (76). So far, I am keeping up with you.

I was very aware when I made my last comment of your distinction—the use of quotes to set off the word authority which can indicate it is a foreign word or that the word has a special or peculiar meaning to the writer. It could be you had another intention altogether which is really irrelevant because you end the paragraph by defining your concept of authority which is actually the virtue love explicitly stated and described in the biblical text:
NN: (317) “I quite agree that Paul was both wives and husbands radical things about marriage – I think that Paul was telling husband’s that, in Christ “authority,” is quite a different thing and to be used in an entirely different way than the world preaches.That it is about nurturing and sacrificing, quite the opposite of the self-centered power of the world.”

Gengwall: (318)
“LOL – well then it isn’t authority. If it looks like a sheep, and walks like a sheep, and bahs like a sheep, it certainly isn’t a duck.”

Right. I understand you are using the word authority in place of the action “agape.”

You are using a noun (authority) and not an action. The action entrusted to husbands in Eph 5 is “agape”. Husbands ( action ). Husbands “agape”. Husbands nurture. Husbands sacrifice. Husbands care. Husbands cherish. Husbands love like Christ. Not…. Husbands authority.

NN (76): “Paul tells husbands in Ephesians 5 – in Christ, “authority” is not about my comfort, it is not about the fact that I would really like a glass of iced tea right now…”

Paul is not telling in Eph 5 what authority is not, but what “agape” is.

NN, do you agree that husbands are to “agape” their wives. If so, do you agree that “agape” looks like how Christ loved the church and that to “agape” your wife means to nourish her and to sacrifice for her benefit?

If so, can we agree to use the word “agape” from the text to mean husbands are to nourish, care, and sacrifice for their wives?