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2010-05-30

Dave (433) I understand that Eve’s condition post fall is not a command but prescriptive etc. This is why I believe some cultures/societies do result in women being more vulnerable. The thing is that in Ephesians Paul is speaking of God’s plan for all things to be brought into harmony with Christ as the head (Eph 1:10) and explains how this should happen in God’s church now. Effectively Paul is describing in Ephesians 5 what redeemed life is like – not fallen life. The same in 1 Cor 11:11-12.

Dave,
Let me ask you a question.

Do you still deal with the consequences of the Fall of thorns, weeds, and sweat in your work?

Likewise, women still deal with the consequences of the Fall of husband rule and the desire for him. Women remain more vulnerable.

And those consequences will never go away as long as we live.

Now, they are certainly mitigated by the gospel/GOOD NEWS. For mitigation regarding the work consequences, see Matthew 6:25-34 for example.

Mitigation of the consequences on marriage? See the end of Eph 5.

For nn,
Marriage was never intended to be a bed of roses for the husband with an ever obedient (slave) wife. If it was, God would have stopped at monkeys or dogs (who can be trained in obedient servitude) and Jesus would not have told the shocked disciples (3 times in one spot!) they better seriously consider. remaining eunuchs rather than the take on the rigors of marriage Matthew 19 1ff

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