Dave

I find it interesting to note that Grudem’s own research of the use of kephale “proved” that it meant “source” zero times. However his research did show that it was used to mean “origin” (or other synonyms) more than anything else (other than literal head).

Of course he failed to recognise that “source” and “origin” are also synonyms…but other than that I like his research!

I find it frustrating that this has degenerated to a discussion centred around word meanings. The fact that Mark would not accept that submission does not dictate authority (despite modern English dictionaries) shows that we will have little joy in determining the meaning of words used 2000 years ago with him.

I just recently had another one of those discussions where I was labelled a heretic and a prowling wolf. Grrr… At least there was no quibbling over the meaning of words as clearly defined…though I did question if he knew what a heretic was…he did! 🙁