Mark

To all,

First, i have said nothing attackingly or aggresively over the kephale discussion. We are dealing with pure facts here and not theology. Thus lies the problem in blogging- it’s hard to communicate effectively. If i have come across too strong, it has not been out of hate or anger for any-please believe that!

Second, Dave you are right in some regards. Discussion here has gone from one of insight, into one of trying to defend the truth of the Bible. This is not my blog, and as such i have no need or interest to answer every question. I do not have time for it, nor do i have an interest in it, when simple facts cannot even be agreed on. For example, many want to hold onto a ‘source’ teaching for kephale, without a shred of evidence. None pre-NT, none of the NT, none after. The closest comes from 400-500AD and is ambiguous and can actually equally support authority. How many texts other than the NT are there for my position…50 or so! Therefore, why should i be heading off into other discussions ATM when we can’t even agree here. Regarding synonyms- you overstate it. Beginning and source are not synonymous. Thus why Greek scholars seperate them. For example, my oldest son is the ‘beginning’ of my sons, but he is not the ‘source’ of my sons. That is why Grudem’s research is accurate and correct and he corrects his findings when appropriate. Just explain why source is used only in plural external texts, but you insist on it for singular uses in the NT? Please do keep praying for me, i’d appreciate that and i’ll do the same. Just be prepared to be challenged on your position and deal with facts. The way i see it, it doesn’t appear you are looking either for the truth…you seem very set in your position. Anyway, i might pop into your blog some time and say gday…i’ve followed your discussions with Steve Coxhead just so you know! Maybe i’ll pop into Ryde pressie one day too!

I’m bowing out…iv’e enjoyed the dialogue but must insist as a brother in Christ that you look at your own motives, look at the scriptures, look at the facts. I’ll pray for you all, and i hope you do the same for me. There is much at stake in these issues and i’m glad none take it lightly- the glory of Christ is at stake here. A challenge for us all, should be to keep Christ and His glory as THE foundation of all these discussions, any thing less is dishonourable. If you look at your own motive before God privately, and are still convinced of your position, there is nothing i can say or do. We will all stand before God on the day to give an account- nothing is hidden from Him. This should make us all (including me) shudder!

I’ll be honest and say i’m very disappointed at much of the theology that has come from this blog from all contributors. But that said, i am convinced that you all have a commitment to scripture and a commitment to Jesus our Lord. I look forward to worshipping Him with you all in the new heavens and earth, where perfection reigns, sin is no more, and where the glory of God gives light for the day.

God bless!