Jay

Ok, thanks for your explanation. I guess I might differ from the view of Payne’s a bit if it is indeed as you say. I would prefer to see that the situation might have been that because of the false teaching that women are superior to men as celebrated in the cult of Cybele, that Paul is telling that he is not allowing women to teach in a way assuming that women have (strong, even violent) authority over men. If this was the situation, there was no need to emphasize that these women should not have the same “authentein” over women, because the nature of the false teaching in this example would be just that, that women should rule over men, therefore these teaching and ruling women would not be seeking to rule over other women so much as they would seek to rule over men. Actually, any idea of anybody in the church assuming authority over someone else, women or man is against the spirit of the NT writers and Christ himself.