Cheryl Schatz

NN,
You said:

I believe that you would agree that the being who we call “Christ” (as a title) existed in what you call “eternity past.”

No, I do not agree. The term the “Christ” was an identification of a particular man who meet the qualifications of being a physical descendent of Abraham. The man called the “Christ” did not exist before the incarnation and no spirit was ever qualified to be called the “Christ” for this is a term of a human being alone.

o the only possible contention you can make is that He is not properly called “the Christ” in the context of eternity past. However, since Paul explicitly & unambiguously does so this contention will not bear out unless you wish to maintain that Paul was wrong to do so.

Paul does not say that the “Christ” was in existence in eternity past and he does not say that we existed in eternity past. But both the “Christ” and we the church were chosen by God in eternity past. The “Christ” is not a title as it is an identification of a promised seed. The “Christ” is the physical son of David. He is the physical seed of Eve and the physical seed of Abraham.

Let me ask you, since the qualification for being the Christ meant that one must be the seed of David and thus qualify to sit on the throne of David, did the seed of David exist in eternity past or was the seed of David born in time and the Word of God existed in eternity past?

Actually let me set up two questions for you separately so that I don’t get accused of being ambiguous.

1. According to Ephesians 1:3, 4 did you exist in eternity past?

2. According to Ephesians 1:3, 4 did the seed of Abraham, David and Eve who is the “Christ” exist in eternity past?