Ramon
2010-06-05
Cheryl,
Let me get right into it. The qualifications for elder are quite clear and leave no room for what ifs. Furthermore, there is to be a plurality of elders in each church. (1 Tim 5:17 and Titus 1:5) Paul never identified himself that he was an elder, but he was a minister, who could be single. So if you follow the bible it would exclude the groups that you have identified. I am not the one to point out another man’s sin, the sin is against God and not me.
Again, where are you getting the ifs?
Cheryl:
“The issue of “husband of one wife” is the issue of marital faithfulness (if one is married) and a married man is to have his household in order (if he has children).”
Response:
Where does the bible say that if he has a wife or children? When was Paul pastoring or shepherding? While he was in chains? Please send me a scriptural reference of Paul’s pastoring?
Cheryl:
I have no idea what you are talking about when you say “they would be interchangeable according to your interpretation”. If you mean that husbands and wives are interchangeable, I didn’t say anything like that. IF that is not what you mean, I am totally lost.
Response:
If women could assume the role of pastor or elder, then they should be able to assume the role of husband, right? Interchangeable
Cheryl:
God is responsible for His laws and His rules and He has never yet condemned one of his female “sons” for using their God-given gifts for the benefit of the body of Christ.
Response:
You and I will be judged for what is written in the scriptures. His commandments are not grievous and they are very clear. How do you know he has not condemned those women? Judgment Day must have come and gone and both of us missed it. I will close with this scripture:
Matthew 7
13. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
I have to take the narrow way and to be in the few!
Also, Brad was on point!
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