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Yes, the first paragraph is what I and others call physical depravity, a consequence of Adam’s sin. In Romans, it adds the phrase…because all have sinned. We follow in Adam’s footsteps and have moral depravity as we choose to sin. We do not get moral depravity genetically. If we did, we would be no more responsible than having brown hair and gays would have an excuse and no culpability for their sin (same with pedophiles, etc….note that a gay person does not have to have gay lineage). I agree we have a propensity to sin, but sin is still volitional and mental or there is no culpability (like infant or severely mentally handicapped). We all eventually sin and form a sinful nature. We are sinners because we sin, not because we are conceived. We do not sin because we are born sinners, gay, liars, etc. We all eventually, universally sin, but the will and mind with propensity to satisfy self and flesh having some Adamic influence (but not the real explanation since we do not have to act on temptation, desires, etc…or we should not tell same sex attraction people that they can resist giving themselves over with sex, etc.). The soul that sins is the one that dies (Ezekiel), so we agree (and you may disagree somewhat with traditional formulations of original sin doctrine…good). I think we all claim biblical support and there are interpretative issues, even with translations. We want to avoid proof texting, watch our biased paradigms, and strive for exegesis, not eisegesis…we agree.