Cheryl Schatz
2013-01-12
allennelson4, You said: One of the reasons he doesn’t spend so much time on just v.27 is that because it has to be understood in the context of the entire chapter. Unfortunately James White does not explain the phrase “which the Son of Man will give you”. He doesn’t explain it in his books or in his video. He doesn’t explain how that meshes with what comes next. In fact he pretty much ignores it except to read the verse. In the video, James says something that is quite important. He says that anyone who glosses over a verse in the passage is to be suspect. That is a paraphrase from what he said. By his own words, he has made himself suspect because he does not give the meaning to Jesus’ words that are a promise to the crowd. It isn’t a mystery why he doesn’t work through the words, because James makes it clear that the crowd are not ones whom the Father sent Jesus to die for, and they are not given to Jesus. They are false believers, they cannot come to Jesus, and they cannot receive salvation because they are not of the elect. Now you are saying that they are the elect, although maybe not all of them. May I say that you are saying this because you have seen the clear words of Jesus that He promises to give the bread to them. While James ignores these words completely and never explains them, at least you are attempting to try to mesh the words of Jesus with your Calvinist theology. I give you a lot of credit for trying to pay attention to the words of Jesus. As we go through the passage and hit the next verses, I ask you to work out your view with the foundation of Jesus’ words in verse 27 and see how that fits with the remainder of the verses in John 6. I believe that it isn’t going to work for you, but I am interested in seeing you try. This kind of back and forth is iron sharpening iron because we are looking at the actual words and the grammar and paying close attention.
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