Cheryl Schatz
2014-07-28
Benjamin, I will go back to your first post. My question was “Can you show a single Scripture that shows a God-hater is given to Jesus?” You gave Ephesians 2:1-10, and this is a wonderful passage showing that we are saved by grace alone, that our salvation is a gift to us. However what I am looking for is where we are given to Jesus, not where salvation (and Jesus) is given to us. If you have a Scripture showing the giving in that direction, I would consider it. Titus 3:3-7 is also a wonderful salvation passage where God pours out the Holy Spirit TO us, however, I don’t see in the passage where it says people are being given to Jesus nor do I see that God haters are given to Him. Benjamin you said: I ask you, Cheryl, can you show where being a God-lover is the basis upon which the person is given to Jesus? If there is something in the person which entices the Father to give that person to Jesus, then you have just introduced works salvation into the picture. Your question deserves to be answered. I do have to admit that I have never seen loving God or fearing God called a “work”. Can you explain why someone responding to the Father in a godly fear would be calling “working” for his salvation? Would you be able to give me a verse that deals with the conclusion because honestly, I have never seen it. As far as a passage where people are being given to Jesus because God pays attention to their fear of Him, look carefully at Malachi 3:16-18. Malachi 3:16–18 (NASB) 16Then those who feared the LORD spoke to one another, and the LORD gave attention and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for those who fear the LORD and who esteem His name. 17“They will be Mine,” says the LORD of hosts, “on the day that I prepare My own possession, and I will spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him.” 18So you will again distinguish between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve Him. According to this passage, what is the LORD of hosts paying attention to? (verse 16) Why is a “book of remembrance” written before God? (vs 16) What promise does the LORD of hosts make following the attention he paid to them and because He heard what was said by these people? (vs 17) What is the “possession” that is prepared by the LORD of hosts and who are spared by the LORD of hosts? (vs 17) Why does He say that there must be a distinguishing of people rather than calling all people as God-haters? (vs 17) I will answer your next question in another comment box.
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