Charis
2007-10-02
Thank you, Cheryl for taking the time to think about my questions and consider my ponderings when you are in the heat of such a warfare as this.
Cheryl wrote:”he ties it in with “the childbearing”. It is a definite noun. What one child is tied in with salvation?”
I agree that “the childbearing” refers to Christ formed in a woman
my cross references for that are Gal 4:19-5:1 and Rev 12
Cheryl wrote: “The basic meaning of the verb sozo is to rescue from peril, to protect, keep alive. Sozo involves the preservation of life, either physical or spiritual.”
What isn’t sitting right with me is “she will be saved if THEY continue in…” So, if we take your understanding of it being a woman teaching doctrinal error, is HER salvation dependant upon THEY?
Paul uses Eve being deceived as a “type” of the church (“a chaste virgin bride”) being deceived in 2Cor 11:2-3 I considered whether 1Tim 2:14 could refer to the church, but that does not fit with the context. In context, Eve has to refer to “a woman” and not the original “Eve” because the woman “shall be saved” is future.
What if “they” in verse 15 refers back up to “women” in verses 9-10?
What if you, Cheryl; and I Charis are among those women?
What if every woman, married, single, childless or mother of all the generations since Christ who CONTINUED “in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety” and “adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety… [and] with good works. ” (9-10)
What if “she shall be saved” is me? I am 48 years old. I have been an evangelical Christian for some 28 years. In the past 3 years, I have grown in my relationship with God exponentially. I feel that I am being renewed in the image of my Creator in a way I have not experienced earlier in my Christian life. Christ is being formed in me (and by the way the labor of THIS childbirth is painful and intense and would be equally painful for a single childless woman- Gal 4:19)
Could that “sozo” be about me/woman/Eve being restored to HIS image? because THEY/women have continued in….
“And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge *after the image of him that created him*” (Col 3:10 )
Isn’t the female reflection of the image of God Eve? So if I- Charis- am “renewed in knowledge after the image of” my creator doesn’t that look like Eve restored?
We are looking at God’s Word, alive and active, sharper than any two edged sword. What if this has been veiled until this generation? Wasn’t the truth about slavery veiled for some 1800 years?
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