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Charis

2007-10-16

NO you are not “the enemy”!
Actually I only read a few chapters in the one book (and just this am I found a link to an online book- The Final Quest, which BTW has some of the quotes you referenced in your post). SO I am by no means a “Joynerite”- to coin a term. I was saved in 1979 through the “ministry” of a cult group (The Forever Family), so I have a long history of God using what was meant as a snare for good in my life.

But, I won’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. The whole Hal Lindsey, Late Great Planet Earth “theology” of Revelation never sat right with me. When I was an LCMS Lutheran in the 90’s I did an in depth study of Revelation (LCMS Lutherans are Amillenial). Personally I chose pan-millenial: “it’ll all pan out in the end”. But recently, when I was looking at Adam and Eve, 1Tim 2:11-15, I picked up the Bible and read from Rev and was confused by it and PRAYED that GOD would show me. Then I picked up Joyner’s book (which is borrowed and had been sitting around untouched for ages) and found the synthesis/the continuity which he presents of Adam and Eve and the trees with Revelation.

Nope, I don’t follow Joyner. I don’t follow Chip Ingram, James Dobson, Rick Warren, Rob Bell, or John MacArthur. I don’t follow Beth Moore. And I don’t follow Cheryl. Though I have listened to all of them and have learned from all of them. But, I want to follow Christ. And I am very open to learn. And I do trust you, Cheryl. I find you trustworthy. I doubt you are always right. But you are trustworthy.

You mentioned the difficulty with your daughter. My 12 yod seems quite taken by “Blue Like Jazz”. She is saying she is like Miller, doesn’t like the “religion” and wants a relationship. I am somewhat concerned that she isn’t mature enough to sort out the facts from the opinions and could get off track in a similar fashion… So I know what you mean.

But I also know what Rick Joyner means about the “religious spirit”. And I think I know what John- the apostle means about the “spirits of antichrist”.

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