Michael Terran

This was a final e-mail I send to Gerald, just one more final plee so to speak. Two feet, Two Feet to kick dust off…..Two final e-mails this being the second and final! Pray He sees the Error of his ways about Jesus!

To Gerald,

Hello Gerald,

Thought you should Professor Wayne Grudem in his Systematic Theology says, ” The Father and the son relate to one another as a father and a son relate to one another in a human family:the Father directs and has authority over the Son and the Son obeys.” 28 Later he makes exactly the same point and adds,”The Father has greater authority. He has a leadership role among all the members of the Trinity.” 29

28 Grudem, Systematic Theology, page 249.
29 Ibid., page 459.

Check this out, look and find out what Wayne Grudem said about Jesus in his book Systematic Theology . More words or less that Jesus is not a leader or the Holy spirit, then he is saying more or less there not fully equal, you then have One big God and Two little ones so much for the Trinity (Tri-Unity)! This is plain Heresy at the Highess and if you can swallow that your pretty far gone in my book! You Unintentionally have embraced fundamental aspects of the Arian heresy in its varied forms, producing a strange amalgam of truth and error! You need to correct your Error!

All the fourth-century Arians focused on what was revealed in the economy of salvation,arguing that the subordination of the Son seen in the incarnation was to be read back into the eternal Godhead, or as we would say today,the immanent Trinity.From the time of Athanasius onward, those who opposed thinking of the Son as eternally subordinated argued that while the Son does reveal the Father, he does not reveal the Father or himself exactly as they exist in communion with the Spirit in eternity.There is correspondence but not identity between the economic and immanent Trinity.

Evangelicals who argue for the eternal subordination of Son today follow the Arian trajectory. They argue that if Jesus was subordinated in the incarnation, he must be subordinated in eternity.The economic Trinity is to be equated with the immanent Trinity.I argue that Scripture makes the triune God as he is in eternity primary and foundational,seeing the revelation of the Father,Son, and Spirit in history and Scripture as accurately conveying truth about God but not comprehensively or exhaustively.

What if someone wanted to read Creation back into the Eternal Trinity! Did God create himself! You see the Error of doing that, reading the (Works of God) things back into the Eternal Trinity! We know God has No beginning or end etc!
But can you now see the Error your doing Gerald!

You see Gerald, God is greater than what he has revealed to frail human minds and what the human mind can comprehend.God the Son in the incarnation did take the form of a servant for our salvation, but Scripture also teaches that he is coequal God,the Lord.The incarnation is only one scene in God’s unfolding revelation of himself in the Son.The scriptures also reaveal the Son as the cocreator and after the resurrection as the ruler of the universe.So I hold that what is known of the immanent Trinity is given in revelation, but the econmy of salvation is not the totality of the revelation given by God of himself in scripture,and the revelation given does not exhaust who and what God is.

You also need to test yourself to see if your are in The Faith 2Cor.13:5!

2 Corinthians 13:5 (Amplified Bible)
5Examine and test and evaluate your own selves to see whether you are holding to your faith and showing the proper fruits of it. Test and prove yourselves [[a]not Christ]. Do you not yourselves realize and know [thoroughly by an ever-increasing experience] that Jesus Christ is in you–unless you are [counterfeits] disapproved on trial and rejected?

2 Corinthians 13:5 (New American Standard Bible)
5(A)Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; (B)examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you–unless indeed you (C)fail the test?

Now all the dust is kicked off, This is all done in Love, bye

Michael Terran