Mark

Craig,

You can argue with Kostenberger over your issues, but your up against all the evidence. Here is what he saids…

“These example set forth the NT evidence that ‘oude’ joins terms that denote activities that are either both viewed positively or negetively by the writer or speaker. The implication of this observation for 1 Tim 2:12 is that there are only two acceptable ways of rendering that passage: (1) “i do not permit a woman to teach (error) or to domineer over a man,” or (2) “i do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man””

Thus the argument that Paul links the two terms to mean one idea is false. Thus, it cannot be translated, “i do not permit a woman to teach a man in a domineering way”. If one adopts this interpretation it goes against ALL the evidence.

Continuing on with Kostenberger…

“That this is indeed the case is strongly suggested by the use of the term ‘didaskein’, which is consistently viewed positively in the New Testament, including the pastorals, when used absolutely, that is, unaccompanied by contextual qualifiers such as those denoting the content of someone’s teaching”

” And when the Kroegers contend that ‘the verb here forbids women to teach a wrong doctrine, just as 1 Tim 1:3-4 and Titus 1:9-14 also forbid false teaching’ (also Cheryl’s view), it must be asserted that in 1 Tim 1:3-4 it is ‘eterodidaskalein’, not ‘didaskein’, which is used, while in Titus 1:9-14 there is ample contextual indication that false teaching is in view, a feature that is absent from the context of 1 Tim 2:12″

“Since, therefore, the term ‘didaskein’ is used absolutely in the NT for an activity that is viewed positively in and of itself, and since ‘oude’ coordinates terms that are either both viewed positively or negetively, ‘authentein’ should be seen as denoting an activity that is veiwed positively in and of itself as well.”

I could go on. Kostenberger then reseachers all the extra biblical literature coming to the same conclusion. The only way that Cheryl’s interpretation can continue to be considered is if it can be shown that ‘didaskein’ here is negetive, which would be the only NT instance of this happening like this.