Jennifer

Hmm. Happy keeper, all I’ve seen is condescension bordering on snideness and Scripture abuse. You seriously believe that women are restricted from preaching God’s Holy Word because of their gender?? What’s hilarious to me is that comps can never agree why, or even how much women are limited: some claim they’re only limited from teaching men the Bible in church. Others believe women can’t teach men about God anywhere, while still others believe that women may NEVER teach men ANYTHING. It’s almost humorous, really, as is your defense of the CBMW, and especially your comparison of it to Billy Graham’s group. I’m sorry, hon, there’s NO comparison between the two in size, giftedness, humility, purpose, popularity, or importance. I also noticed that wile you called my observations of Ware and Grudem character assinations. you didn’t contradict them. You can’t contradict direct quotes.

“If women were to simply humble themselves and follow what they CAN do in Scripture, they would have no time to assume roles they CANNOT assume through the Word.”

THAT is just pathetic. If only women would humble themselves and keep their mouths shut, the comps whine, the churches (i.e., men) would be SO much happier. The note of desperation in comps is always to tell men that they’re being emasculated and victimized if the women don’t shut up. You people never see the harm to womanhood of putting a gag order on women, yet wail until your faces are blue if men don’t have supremacy in EVERYTHING. You said we haven’t used Scripture? It is in Scripture that Christ said it was not good to raise princes among ourselves. It was in Scripture that the word “preach” is used more than the word “pastor”, which comps have tried to wield into a position of spiritual king. It was in Scripture that God spoke of Adam and Eve as being equal, of one flesh, made to rule the world. It is NOT accurate or Scriptural to say that women are equal, yet try to limit them in the spreading of God’s Word in ANY way. It is in Scripture that God warned Eve she’d prefer her husband over God, and that he would sinfully rule her. Some comps say this was a command to Eve, which is cute, in a disgusting sort of way. Firstly, even most comps try to claim that they don’t believe men should rule over their wives. And secondly, it was clearly not a command, but a warning. If it was a command, God would have said “Eve, desire your husband” or “Adam, rule over her”, but indeed, God’s prediction came true: we have “godly” men trying to rule women and women seeking more to please these men by shutting up than God, by speaking up and serving Him. If you understood that a pastor in a church is meant to be one of many shepherds, instead of spiritual king of the flock, perhaps you wouldn’t be so frightened of emasculating men by taking such “holy hierarchy” away from them.

” I have seen some egalitarians go so far as to denigrate Paul’s teachings and blaspheme the Word by claiming that Paul “did not have the same authority or annointing that Jesus had and therefore his words cannot be considered divine or as pertinent as Jesus’s”. ”

Oh my, you’re not used to REALLY scholarly egals, are you? Welcome to the eagle’s nest. And btw, if you think THAT’S bad, the lowering of Paul’s authority, how about the lowering of Christ’s authority? You know, what Wayne Grudem did? I didn’t see you getting into a huff over that. Seems to me just another comp who doesn’t have their priorities quite right.