Happy Promise Keeper
2009-02-09
Once again, no Scripture and mere conjecture and opinion and emotions. This is what I usually run into on these feminist theologian/egalitarian sites. I had hoped this one would have been better ….. so far I am very disappointed. I will be shaking the dust off my feet very quickly here if you can’t do better.
Cheryl, unfortunately for you ….. CBMW owes you no further contacts. The same pertains to any of us here, including me. I wouldn’t feel badly at all if I submitted something to CBMW without a response. It’s the nature of the media beast, Cheryl, to rarely get a response to an inquiry …… especially from such a broad (pardon the pun, no harm intended!) ministry with so many facets. Have you thought that perhaps they know they would be wasting their time responding to one with such a narrow agenda? Why should they waste valuable staff time and assets to respond to just one person? They have no obligation to you, sister.
Don, nice try but you have offered a weak response to my questions. You simply must face the fact that had Jesus wanted ANY females in positions of church authority ….. and with the large number of females within His circle to choose from …. He surely would have appointed at least one of them as a Church Father. He did not. Nor did He offer ANY teachings whatsoever that would have permitted it. He also didn’t model the appointing of females to church authority. Nor did Paul. Nor did Peter. Nor did Timothy. Nor did any of the founding FATHERS of the faith. It simply isn’t in the Word, brother. Nada! Conversely, the preponderance of Scripture conclusively proves that females were not in positions of church or family authority over men ….. again, the only caveat being some OT references where men abdicated and women were permitted some ministrations of leadership. The NT has no references to female authority in this regard. It DOES contain numerous references prohibiting it!
Your comment about Junias …… which is the most accurate translation …. not the feminine Junia …. simply can’t hold water. Here is a balanced look at the Junia issue ……… http://www.cbmw.org/Resources/Articles/A-Female-Apostle
There is wide disagreement among even the most noted theologians as to whether or not this person was a Junia or a Junias. That fact alone should give us just cause to NOT use this person as an approval of female authority in the church or family. It’s not that we throw it out. We can’t, because it is inspired Scripture. However, we should NEVER base a complete doctrinal/theological stance upon only one obscure verse. If we do so, we open ourselves up to error ….. as the fems and egals have done ….. and we close ourselves up to the full counsel of the Word. We deny what in theological circles is know as “The Principle of the Preponderance of Scripture”. The Bible taken as a whole entity. So, we must then take this Junia issue and apply The Principle to it.
This, then, takes us back to my original three questions ….. which no one here except for Don has attempted to tackle ….. and he did it in error.
Please show me where Jesus appointed any female Disciples.
Please show me where a female was chosen to replace Judas Iscariot.
Please show me where a female was permitted to be an Apostle.
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