Cheryl Schatz
2010-11-14
Mark,
You quoted me and then replied:
“So are you going to even try to answer my challenge to show why the head covering shamed Christ?”
This is incredible Cheryl. I asked the same thing in #177. Here is what i said…
“Where does he say that the WOMAN covering her head shames Christ?”
Still not answering the questions and challenges eh, Mark?
The answer to your question is that it doesn’t directly say that the woman covering her head shames Christ. The answer I have already given (if you read my links) is that the woman is the only one with TWO heads and so while Paul forbids men from wearing the covering because it shames their head (and the woman has the same head!), he moves on to the dilemma of her head covering which also shames her husband who is also her head. Paul does not need to repeat the issue about shaming her spiritual head and those who received this letter understood why the head covering shamed Christ. It is us who needs to figure that one out.
Once again, I asked you to provide the reason why the head covering shamed Christ. You seem to have a multitude of ways to avoid answering my questions. I can only assume it is because you do not want to admit that you have no answers at all.
Another misreading Cheryl, and another charge of me saying the opposite of what i actually said. Again i’ll simply assume it was another misreading of yours, but maybe not after a third time! You have one chance left 🙂
MY questions to you is a misreading of yours? That is quite novel, Mark. You should get a prize for novel ways to avoid answering my questions. Once again I ask you how the head covering shames the spiritual head (Christ). Paul said that a man who wears the head covering shame his head (Christ). Please provide your answer to why wearing a covering would possibly shame the Lord Jesus Christ.
Anyway, i’ve read through your attached links to this topic and your above comments and i’m still a little perplexed. Can you please give me a link to a commentator/paper/essay or whatever of someone who agrees in essence with your position to help me understand it better before i comment further. I need some other clarification. Thanks.
More novel ways of avoiding the questions. So now you demand to know who else agrees with my position before you will answer a Biblical challenge? Do you always avoid answering everyone in these novel ways?
1 Peter 3:15 (NAS) but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;
Should we rewrite the Scripture so that there is no defense required unless the person asking you for your position can quote page number and scholars who agree with their opposing position? I have already on this blog given the names of those who support my view and it changes nothing for you. Until you can show me from the Scripture how such a challenge enables you to continue to refuse to answer questions, it would be a waste of my time.
You just are not going to answer are you? You aren’t here to answer questions as it appears you are here to attack me personally and charge me with paying too much attention to the actual inspired words of the Scriptural text. How anyone can pay too much attention to God’s word really mystifies me. I only wish you were like me and we could have a solid debate without smoke and mirrors and novel reasons for refusing to answer.
I really, really LOVE the people on my blog who have demonstrated that they love truth more than they love tradition. I encourage all to keep struggling through these difficult texts because truth is worthy of the work it takes to understand it.
2 Timothy 2:15 (NAS)
15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.
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