Watcher

Watcher,
The gender hierarchalist would certainly get some help from cult literature in how to take the time of Jesus’ humility as a man and turn it into his eternal state.  Such a shame, though, don’t you think?

Several years back I sat in a lecture on the Trinity by Bruce Ware and I was sitting with two former Jehovah’s Witnesses who had come to Christ.  I told them that Ware lowers the Deity of Christ in much the same way as they were taught to believe, but I don’t think they believed me until they heard it for themselves.  Their mouths dropped open in shock and they told me that this is what they used to believe as Jehovah’s Witnesses.  To hear an evangelical Christian spout the same doctrine was truly shocking to them.’

My beginnings in lessons in cults began with the JW’s. Yeah it was hard trying to sort everything out, so long ago at the time but I did note that at the beginning of my research into the man/woman debate that gender hierarchlaists teachings showed that they viewed women the same way as the JW’s.

Regards to the Trinity I remember having an inckling or something that the same proponents of gender hierachy probably subordinated Christ. So I went into a christian book store, picked up Grudem’s ‘Systematic Theology’ and my suspicion was confirmed. I couldn’t believe it! Before my intuition was confirmed I had thought to myself something like ‘there is no way they could do that because that is just beyound…’ When I found out, I was there in the store completely heart broken. The church was a failure. It failed on the issue of women and Christ. That was probably one of the worst days of my life, that be ‘the’ worst. Where was the church I thought?

Anyway, I was just sharing some past experiences that relate to JW’s and the false teachings of the Trinity. I didn’t let the JW’s attempt to doctrinate me for too long, I did fall for some things for a time out of confusion. I just couldn’t get the confusion sorted out cognitively at the time. I remember them showing me a vidoe on the Trinity though everything in the video was so confusion, the verbiage, concepts etc for me. It all seemed wrong but I soo wanted to understand what was what! So these are things I remember of my experiences related to JW’s, the man/woman debate and the Trinity.