Cindy K

I wonder what spin that the hierarchalists would put on this and how many paragraphs it would take them to communicate it?

This is all so plain and clear to me, that submission is functional or economic and not one of essence, I can’t even anticipate what arguments they will offer.   I can usually anticipate the arrogance with which the arguments are made, however.  Most all that I have heard assume a proud sense that they cannot be wrong and no other interpretation warrants any merit.