Cheryl

Regarding the comment from “Called and wanting healing”,

I have listened to the audio file and there isn’t anything on that audio tape that isn’t refuted in my DVD.  However for those who don’t have the DVD, let me point out a few things that jumped out at me.

First of all I did appreciate that this vicar says that he hasn’t pushed his views on people for the entire number of years that he has been at this church.  That is a good thing especially since there are so many who have not only pushed this view on people but who have also separated themselves from those who disagree on this secondary issue.

One thing that I found quite odd in his explanation.  He said a woman can prophesy because of the “non authoritative” nature of NT prophesy.  He said that prophesies need to be tested but that we don’t need to test the authoritative teaching of the word of God.  This is simply not true.  We are to test all things and hold fast to what is true.  Even Paul who was the author of authoritative scripture welcomed his teaching to be tested by the word of God!  To say that authoritative bible teaching by men is not to be tested is really quite shocking! He has gone above and beyond scripture with this teaching.

Another thing the vicar said was Deborah was only used because God had no men to lead.   There has never been a time when God didn’t have men.  When Elijah was concerned that he was the only one left that was serving God, God told him in 1 Kings 19:18 that he had 7,000 others in Israel who have not bowed the knee to Baal.

Also when the priest Hilkiah and four other men were sent to the Huldah to find out what the word of the Lord was, Jeremiah was in the land prophesying for 5 years already when the men were sent to Huldah.  To say that Hulday or Deborah was used because there were no men that could be used by God is inaccurate and faulty.

Also the vicar says that the ordination of women is not from the Holy Spirit.  This is comes from prejudice in the church.  Years ago many in the church didn’t believe that God could use a black person to preach and teach the scriptures to white people.  Was this because the Holy Spirit did not ordain them or was this because of the prejudice in the church?  I think that when we look at scripture from a prejudiced viewpoint that brings presuppositions to the text, we will read our own prejudice into the text.

I very much look forward to hearing the next edition of the vicar’s message.  Anyone else have any comments on this audio file, please feel free to share it here.