Cheryl

Don,

I am trying to figure out what you are actually claiming.  Are you claiming that in 1 Cor 15:5 that Peter is not part of the 12 since he is named before the twelve?  Or do you understand that the “12? is a name for those who had been picked by Jesus to be his witnesses of the resurrection?

Are you also claiming that Paul said that he saw the resurrected Christ and that he had signs and miracles only because he wanted people to think that he was just as good as the false apostles?  Sort of a one-up-manship?  I gave a lot of verses to you and I am not sure if I understand your point.  Are you saying that all the verses I gave you are there only because Paul is claiming to be equal to the false apostles and is not claiming to be equal to the true 12 apostles?  If so, that doesn’t make any sense to me.

Did you answer why Paul claimed to be a witness to the resurrection and why every other apostle other than the twelve did not claim to be an apostle of the resurrection or claim that they had signs and wonders to prove their apostleship?  If you did answer this, I missed it from the verses that you quoted.

I do not think that there is any relevance at all that the eleven saw Jesus between the resurrection and the ascension.   Paul claimed to have seen the resurrected Christ and since the witness chosen by Christ had to be a witness to the resurrection, I don’t see any relevance at all to having to witness the ascension.  Are you making a claim here that this is important?

The claims of Paul that I wanted you to address are his claims to having the signs and wonders that make him a true apostle and the fact that he claims to being picked as a witness to the resurrection by Jesus Himself.  I don’t see anyone else making that claim other than the other eleven disciples.  Can you comment on this?