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The carageenan in my ice cream comes from seaweed, but I don’t know if it has seeds. 🙂

“I can’t argue with you about Adam’s motives because I don’t read hearts and I know nothing about his motive except for what the scripture says.  The bible says that Adam dealt treacherously against God and that is the only thing that I can find anywhere that hints at what was in Adam’s heart.”  You are the one who first brought up Adam’s motives.

“The bible says that Adam dealt treacherously against God”  The analogy in Hosea is about transgressing.  (I predict you will disagree.)

“What I was contending for was that there was no exception given to Eve regarding the full permission given to both her and Adam to eat any tree that had seed bearing fruit.”  No, you are contending that the exception would have been recorded if it had been given.  Genesis was not written for the benefit of Adam and Eve.  It was written for us.

“The fact that God told Eve that they (plural) were not allowed to touch the fruit made the acceptance that this particular tree did not have seed bearing fruit a matter of faith.”   God’s question to Adam regards Adam’s act of disobedience,  “…hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?”

“Adam and Eve were to be justified by faith”  I didn’t know Adam and Eve needed to be justified before the fall.

” I would think that most seed bearing plants are on dry land, but if they are in the water, that too would be given to us to eat.”  TO US?  I am not restricted to eating only plants with seeds.  I can eat seaweed whether it has seeds or not.  I eat meat as well.

“It was his heart motive that was tested by God, not the fact that he didn’t pluck the fruit himself.”  WHO is saying God is testing whether or not Adam plucked the fruit himself?

“Clearly Adam ate because he chose to eat and his excuse that she gave it to him (influenced him to take it) was rejected by God.  I don’t buy it either.”   I don’t excuse Adam’s sin either.  Saying Adam was influenced by his wife IS NOT EQUAL to excusing his sin.

“Adam (one who completely knew that the serpent was not telling the truth because Adam was not deceived)”  I say Adam (one who knew he was wrong when he ate the fruit because he was not deceived)

” Adam also did not defend Eve from a spiritual attack that he identified.”  Are you saying it was his responsibility to?

“I do think that we should lay blame where God lays blame and not blame the one who Satan attacked.”  Are you saying God does not lay blame on the one who Satan attacks?  All have sinned.  The wages of sin is death.

“I too was taught that Eve was to blame as she was the one who tempted the man, who disobeyed the man by making a spiritual decision without his approval and who was the weak one because she was deceived.”  I was not taught that.

I am not part of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and have never been.

Don, I do put Genesis 1 and 2 together.  I just trust that I’m a faithful person who has arrived at a different answer.