Douglas

Mara, great response.
Words have set meanings and always will. Do you use a dictionary?
I reckon you do like me when I am not sure of a word’s meaning.

All sin is henious and will reap the wrath of God in all its forms revolts, earthquake, volcanos, floods, avarious bankers etc. etc. No matter how great the repentance the wrath will be visited upon gulity parties as punishemnet has to be carried out to fit the crime(sin). Even victim impact statements can not save a gulity (wo)man from jail since messages need to sent out to the peolpe that certain behaviour is not accetable in the eyes of the law. The law is usually develpoed from a moral code eg Chritianity or Isalm which has sharia law and allows judicial amputation stoning etc.

But to answer your points paragrph by paragraph:
God never made male and female sin to be different from on another. The ten commandments apply to both equally. The two greatest commandments issued from the mouth of Jesus Christ, “love the Lord you God… and love your neighbor as yourself…” have not gender considerations.
My answer: Yup no arguement there.

Pulling Paul’s words out of context, words that Peter himself found confusing doesn’t make for clear understanding of anything. Peter was a contemporary of Paul who spoke the same language as Paul but says in his letters that Paul’s words are difficult to understand.
My answer: The text in question is a letter by Paul to Timothy the man in charge at Ehpesus who was having difficulty with the women in the congregation. So where is Peter’s place in all this? The advsice was to stop them and tell them to be quite and behave and not teach because they were bearing false witness. Seems clear they were not to be trusted and were no better than sirens.

Men fool themselves when they say Paul’s words are clear. Translators have a hard time trying to figure out what Paul meant on so many levels.
My answer: As you say translators(ie the clssical greek scholars) have a hard time then the answer is to get the point sorted now before anymore women are ordanined becasue the process will develope a schism in the church thus temping the wrath of God.

The words of Jesus, however, are very clear. He made no distiction between male and female sins.
My answer: Yup OK agreed.

It is not a sin for a woman to preach or teach men. If it were so grievious a sin, Jesus would have made it clear and never let the woman at the well go to the men of the town and preach to them. Nor would He have ever, ever, ever sent the women from the empty tomb to preach the good news. And he would have never scold the men for not listening to and believing the women Jesus sent. If it were so bad for women to preach or teach, Jesus would have told the men first, not the women.
My Answer: There were no women disciples, but there were and have been since women kings queens leading nations. The discovery by Mary of the empty tomb is teh realtung of a tale of discovery that Jessus body had gone. Mary did not preach whe was merely relay facts, like any good reporter. Did jesus ever say it was OK for woemen to preach or teach? Can you tell be were this is written explicitly?

Paul’s words are only ‘clear’ to you because men translate them a certain way then tell each other it means this or that.
My answer: See the first sentence of my reply.

They are not clear, nor is the one on women being saved in childbearing clear. It makes about no sense. Yet people are so sure it is so clear even when their version of what is says totally contradicts the whole rest of the Bible and the very actions of Jesus Christ, Himself.
My answer: Only women can bear children as my wife says, unless you agree that men can with medical intervention, which itself is self mutilation. So women should bear children as was intend once impregnated by their husbands. The bible is a collection of books/essays/writings written over many years and was never properly co-ordinated. Once the bible was written in everyone’s language for the masses to read and interpret not just the preists and with everyone being educated, God’s wrath has been visited upon (wo)man ever since. Ordination of women and preaching by women has just created more angst. We already have seen the Roman Catholics accepting preists from the Anglican communion becasue of the problem. A schism has started.