Cheryl Schatz

int3grity,

Are you talking about the Trinity DVD or the Women in Ministry DVD set?

While Jesus was on the earth, he taught people to pray to the Father, but when he left the earth, he took on a relationship with his body just as his Father has a relationship with us.

Relationship with Jesus is not going past him to the Father. Nor is it going to the Father in the authority or name of Jesus. It is going through the Son. Through the very person of Jesus so that our relationship is with BOTH the Father and the Son.

When I was in communication with Dr. Bruce Ware, I asked him how he had a relationship with Jesus if he never prayed to him. He never answered me. In scripture we are to have a relationship with Jesus. How do we do that? Our relationship is not with only one person of the Trinity.

The teaching is spreading and infecting Christian seminaries that we are not allowed to have a personal relationship with Jesus by communicating with him in prayer. The teaching is that this is not allowed because of the Father’s greater authority so that our relationship is with the Father thru the Son (meaning we come to the Father and end our prayer “in Jesus name”) This is not a relationship with Jesus. It is not the historical position and it greatly concerns me that young men and women are being taught to see Jesus as a secondary authority and a merely a way to the Father. Yet the Bible shows us that Jesus is our bridegroom. We are to be in intimate relationship with him. Anyone who denies this intimate relationship with the Lord Jesus through communicating with him in prayer and sharing our heart’s desire with him is not following after the orthodox teaching about Jesus.

When error comes into the church, it is always very subtle. However the end result is always a denial of the Lord Jesus in one way or another. When Jesus is denied a relationship with us and us with him, scripture is denied and Jesus is not being honored as the Father is honored.