Lin

“I feel frustrated at having to keep repeating myself.
Its like you are seeing this in 3D and I see it in 4D. There is another dimension in the Garden that we DON’T HAVE ANYMORE.
The man was NOT frustrated before the Fall.
The intimacy they had was satisfying FAR BEYOND anything mere sex offered. ”

Charis, I am not sure how anyone could say this to your satfisfaction but from what I have read here most agree with this .

“I still think you are imposing things on the text that aren’t in there. You make much of that when others do it and don’t seem to be willing to see it when you do it. You are IMPOSING frequent sexuality and your own experience of the centrality of that to marital intimacy. Its not in the text. ”

Wow, I think this is a bit strong. Can you be more specific? An exact quote or something?

“But I don’t wish to keep explaining myself. I feel some of the comments are misjudging me. Good and frequent sex does not a good marriage make- I know of what I speak. IF they had it (which you have convinced me they did on occasion), it was a nice perk (like chocolate to a child) but was NOT a centerpiece of the Garden experience. That experience was so far beyond sex and chocolate that Adam felt satisfied and so did Eve.”

Yes, and sin entered the world. But what do you do with ‘be fruitful and mulitply’ command in Gen 1? Are you saying they ignored it whether or not God allowed children to be born before the fall? Are children the only proof of sex? I am just not sure I am following you and what you are saying.

Did it ever occur to us that by women turing to man instead of God and being dominated by man that she then became a sex object? Good only for having sex and babies in the eyes of many throughout history? We see how this thinking has progressed throughout history into porn and sex being preached in the pulpits. Now, we even have John Piper defining what is beauty in a woman as in gentle and quiet as if these are not qualities for a man, too.