Browse / Scripture Commentary / Comment
sm

sm

2009-08-20

Mike writes:
“I think a man should equally not place himself under the authority of a woman’s teaching. I would agree that this would be equally going against Scripture.”

To accommodate the varying “I thinks” (opinions) among heirchalists the following are examples of how their religion is applied:

From “A Personal Confession – A Public Challenge
By Our Love Shall All People Know We Are His Disciples” by
Wade Burleson at the Midwest Regional New Baptist Covenant Conference, August 6th http://kerussocharis.blogspot.com/2009/08/personal-confession-public-challenge.html
“I will never forget the email I received from one of the young ladies in our Baptist seminaries who wrote me, confiding that she typed with tears in her eyes, having just come from her “preaching class” where the professor allowed all the “men and boys” in the class to remove themselves from the room so they would not be subjected to hearing a woman teach the Word of God. The young lady found herself preaching to the walls and wondered whether or not she had a place in Baptist life.”

Pastor Steve Anderson Faithful Word Baptist Church Tempe, AZ from “The Role of Women in the Church” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuBhLp2H-aw&feature=channel beginning at 7:13 minutes
“Now many churches permit women to say, ‘Amen’. Now, I don’t agree with that because I think that women are ‘to learn in silence’. Now the same term ‘Amen’ you are expressing ‘I agree with you. I stand where you stand.’ Look, that’s…we don’t believe in women expressing their opinion during the preaching, during the learning. It’s time for you to be ‘in silence’. I didn’t write the bible; that’s what it says. So, I don’t believe women should say, ‘Amen’…

SIDE NOTE: Pastor Steve Anderson does not admonish the women to refrain from laughter throughout his sermon which is, I believe, expressing an opinion, too.
I also am not persenting Pastor Steve Anderson as reflective of all heirchalists or baptists, but this is the tone and attitude that is inevitably perpetuated in various ways when you embrace the system of thought of a heirchal structure and erect boundaries to ensure there is no infringement upon the structure.

By Sam Hodges “Baptists at odds over removal of female professor: Seminary case fuels debate on women’s role in theology programs” from The Dallas Morning News January 19, 2007 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/religion/stories/012007dnmetnubaptists.176f48d.html
“But some conservatives say Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, under president Paige Patterson, wrongly applied [1 Timothy] to remove from its faculty Sheri Klouda, who until last year had been teaching men Hebrew in the seminary’s school of theology.
The controversy is yet another sign that conservatives…are seriously at odds…
“Sheri Klouda is not a pastor, she has not been ordained or licensed, she does not perform ministerial duties. She is a professor, for heaven’s sake,” Mr. Burleson said by phone Friday. “The same institution that conferred her degree and hired her has now removed her for gender. To me, that is a very serious, ethical, moral breach.”
Dr. Patterson did not respond to requests for comment. Speaking for the seminary instead was Van McClain, chairman of the Southwestern trustees…
…Dr. McClain did say that Dr. Klouda’s hiring as a professor in the school of theology, which occurred before Dr. Patterson arrived in 2003, represented a *****”momentary lax of the parameters.”***** (emphasis added)

I think these speak for themselves.

The latter example also shows the flux of the boundaries of what is permissible from one heirchalist leader to another.

Your Tags

Personal labels you apply to any item — separate from system topics. Tags are shared across all databases. Visit /tags to browse all your tags.

...more

Original Article

Mike Seaver Cheryl Schatz 5

2009-08-17