Martin Willemeos Hansen

Cheryl, you said in post 21:
“Why is there no mention of a Gentile overseer? Why is there no mention of a slave having the work of an overseer? Does the fact that the scriptures have no mention of these kinds of overseers mean that they are not part of the “anyone” from verse 1?”

No, at thats not the point I’m trying to make, slaves or gentiles in particular is not mentioned in verses 8-13, but women is. I’m just wondering why Paul didn’t mention women in particular in verses 1-7.

Paula, you mentioned Titus 2 in post 20, as an example of women elders ‘presbytis’. Men elders are also mentioned ‘presbyt?s’ and elders in general ‘presbyteros’ are mentioned in Titus 1:5. I’m no Greek scholar, but if there is women elders, how would one refer to them in Greek? Would it not be by the word ‘presbytis’? Also the context seems to indicate that Titus should point out able Elders and what character traits he should be looking for, both in 1:1-9 and what he should avoid 1:10-16, and then what he should teach these elders 2:1-5.

How do complementarians argue that ‘presbyteros’ does not include ‘presbytis’?

In His amazing grace,
Martin