Lin

geng, so you are on record as saying Eggerich does not believe nor teach that the husband is the leader and does NOT interpret kephale to mean leader?

” wanted to share what I see: inherent differences are actually going to weaken their argument, because everyone benefits when there is more than one viewpoint on any idea.”

Kim,

It did not weaken their argument for 8 Thousand years or however far back Gen 3 was written! Gender differences havebeen the foundational argument that has kept women from being a functioning part of the Body for thousands of years. The early church fathers wrote about it! You should read the things they said about women and their lack of intellectual capability. emotionalism and ‘needs’.

It is the argument that keeps women in burkas. It is the same lie as the ‘shame/honor” society in the ME. Which is nothing but conceit. Sin.

Let’s ask ourselves something..by focusing on these differences are we enabling sin? For example: Men have fragile egos and need respect. So we give the sinner what he needs or demands? We could easily say that a woman’s need for love means she can be deceived easier. Which negates Cheryl’s argument that not all women are easily deceived.

The entire comp doctrine is based on gender differences that they exploit for position. They use these differences to elevate some other others.

Where are these differences before the fall? So, how much of it is sinful flesh? HOw much of it is mom saying, that is girls work and that is boys work?

Do all the ‘one anothers’ in scripture not apply to believers in marriage?

This stuff is so ingrained. People have been taught that because of our different sexual organs we automatically have different emotions, intellect, feelings, etc. But it is not the sexual organs. It is sin. (because Jesus fulfills all our needs)

I contend that Paul and Peter are dealing with the reality of a woman’s position in the 1st century. I certiainly do not braid my hair, either! :o)

I fear you guys are painting yourself into a corner on this. Can you show me in the OT where it is taught that men need respect and women need love? Is that made clear there? Is it a result of sin culture or of Creation?