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Cheryl Schatz

Cheryl Schatz

2009-09-26

12 Mark,

You said:

Is this an oxymoron. Isn’t Jesus deity his ‘Godness’ and his ‘humanness’. How can you see the ‘full complete deity of Christ’ in the Old Testament- his deity didn’t exist yet! Have i explained what i am trying to say !!!!

Are you talking about seeing the character of Jesus in the OT before his incarnation, so seeing the full ‘God’ side of his character before his incarnation. And that his incarnation only represented his human side?

Let’s word it this way: Jesus had no beginning as God. As God he was The Word or the LORD of Hosts. As the Word of God in the OT as the second person of the Trinity we see his full place of God in the Trinity without a connection to the humility that He took on as a man.

It is important that we do not look to the manhood of Jesus and say that this is what He is as God. For example Jesus in his humanity had to sleep, yet God does not sleep. We cannot say that Jesus as God showed that God has to sleep. Also we cannot show that the human nature of Jesus is exactly what He was before He became man. This is not the correct way to see the full Deity of Jesus. The limitations of the man are often appealed to by the cults to prove that Jesus is not fully God. We want to be careful that we do not do that. We can clearly see His Deity in the OT and there is no submission of His will, nor any less authority or power shown in the revelation of the LORD of Hosts in the OT.

You asked:

Are you talking about seeing the character of Jesus in the OT before his incarnation, so seeing the full ‘God’ side of his character before his incarnation. And that his incarnation only represented his human side?

No, I am not saying that His incarnation only represented His human side. I am saying that His human side often hid His Deity because He was 100% human and 100% God so we need to be careful that we do not mix up His human nature with His nature as God otherwise we have a God who needs to sleep, eat, doesn’t know the future or who touched Him.

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