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2009-10-10
Mark,
You ask: “1. Egals believe there is no creation order and the idea or corruption of mans ‘rule’ is a result of the fall, correct?”
First, I don’t claim to speak for egals or any codified system of egalitarianism as this term and debate are new to me.
I understand the Genesis account to give a narrative of mankind’s beginnings:
27 “God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
There is no hint of hierarchy between the male and female. The only hierarchy is the male and female ruling together over the earth, fish, bird, and every living creature that moves on the ground.
If by “creation order” you mean Eve was created after Adam, I would say chapter two gives the following order and account:
God caused a deep sleep to come upon Adam and took a part of him and fashioned a woman and upon seeing the woman Adam waxed poetic: “This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman because she was taken out of Man.” He will leave and cleave, and they shall be one flesh.
I do not see any description of or prescription for hierarchy in this creation account. It meshes very well with chapter one: God created “them”. “Male” and “female” he created “them”. God told “them” to multiple and *subdue* the earth as one flesh.
There is “no idea of man’s rule” in creation. If by “creation order” you mean Eve was created second, the narrative of chapter two describes a variation on chapter one with Eve being subsequent to Adam. I’m processing this now and wondering if by “creation order” you mean “divine rule by man” or hierarchy, then that is answered in the first line of this paragraph.
I would agree that the “corruption of man’s rule” is a result of the fallen nature of humanity.
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