Kay
2009-10-15
Mark wrote: “I believe that yes Adam was the leader before the fall. I believe the fall corrupted this leadership- i’m not sure whether i would use the word ‘curse’ in my description though.”
Why not ‘curse’? (I thought your stance was that Eve sinned rebelliously)
How could we now expect to have a different outcome if a present day “Eve” gives some forbidden fruit to her “Adam” husband?
So, God wants us to continue to use a model that didn’t work in its pure pre-Fall form and on top of that now it’s also “corrupted”?
Are we to believe 1 Timothy 2:12-14 is saying that it’s somehow better to follow “Adam(s)” who sin knowingly, rather than risk sinning due to deception? I just can’t find anything in Scripture that says sinning on purpose is superior to sinning due to deception.
Since that model did not work for Adam and Eve, then it makes no sense to say that somehow it’s God’s will to continuing to follow it.
Mark wrote: “I think the pattern of leadership which emerges throughout the rest of scripture teaches us something about Eden.”
Yes, I agree – the pattern of male leadership is a corruption of
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.”
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